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Post by Pleonast on Jul 17, 2008 5:54:08 GMT -8
About 5 hours left to make a decision.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 6:05:04 GMT -8
See, it's not paranoia now is it? I think our best use of tonight's power is to investigate. I had thought about doing Nanook, just to mess with them and force them to choose someone else, but he's going to die shortly anyway and it's not worth wasting the investigation IMO. The wolves may not be targeting CIAS yet because they don't know if he is being protected or if "Nanook the witch" is. I'm sorry that I'm being too obvious. I wanted at first to make sure that I had some ammo if I needed to counterclaim. I was really hoping that Boozy Dio would put up a fight when he found out Nanook was lying, but since he didn't it allowed us to stay hidden for another day. I'll need some help with a coded message. I'm not real good at that sort of thing.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 6:05:48 GMT -8
About 5 hours left to make a decision. I thought Day started on Friday! ACK!
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 6:07:40 GMT -8
My vote for investigation is Hal.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 6:08:43 GMT -8
Of course, if you really think I will be targeted tonight, do you think it's better to keep a confirmable Townie?
Decisions decisions.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 17, 2008 6:21:32 GMT -8
About 5 hours left to make a decision. I thought Day started on Friday! ACK! Doh! It does. Mod is too sleep deprived. Carry on.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 6:47:30 GMT -8
I thought Day started on Friday! ACK! Doh! It does. Mod is too sleep deprived. Carry on. Whew!
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Post by witch1 on Jul 17, 2008 8:14:01 GMT -8
So we have another 27 hours to decide?
I'm not good at coded messages. I'll think about it, but don't hold your breath. Maybe DeadWitch can help?
I thought of encoding something about DeadWitch being a Witch. What do you think?
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Post by witch2 on Jul 17, 2008 10:00:05 GMT -8
Nah, that's too obvious.....
But if we could just form a sentence with the words:
____w "How" "wow" ____i (this is the tough one) unless you go for just "i" ____t -easy one - "that" "what" "get" ____c ____h
How I get =WIT so far.... just need a C H there. But it's something as simple as that. And at night, you can disguise by making it an inane reference (so no one pays attention to it in the morning). Like refering to drinks or dancing etc.
Only those LOOKING for the clues would find it.
The sentence doesn't have to be anything obvious- just include the words WITCH somewhere in it, so that MHAYE can point it out. That's the key, you're never going to use this code, it's only for mhaye's sake.
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Post by witch2 on Jul 17, 2008 10:03:28 GMT -8
OH!
And look for ANYONE who is paranoid about the game being "Too easy" or worried about the perfect order of lynches.
THAT'S often a HUGE Scum Tell. They're worried, and they're looking to TRY to stir up paranoia when there is NONE to be found. I'd def. consider investigating a quiet person who says something like that.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 10:55:13 GMT -8
Here is what I can come up with. First letter of each sentence in the first para.
What about a drink Boozy? If you don't mind, of course, what with being dead and all. The waiting for Diggit to answer the charges is making me thirsty. Chocolate would be good too. How about a chocolate something or other?
: goes to Google:
Ooooo, a drink called a Chocolate Zombie hasn't been invented yet. Go for it Squiddie!
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Post by witch3 on Jul 17, 2008 16:32:02 GMT -8
Went with it, hope you can use it later.
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Post by witch2 on Jul 17, 2008 22:26:43 GMT -8
good good....
But now, Protect or Investigate?
I can go for either, but I'm already dead. So I'll leave it to you living Air Breathers to figure it out....
-If you protect- it should be Hockey or CiaS. (though I'm leaning towards Hockey- I don't think the witch doctor will protect ME, but he might do CiaS at least eventually). -If you investigate- 1. It should be someone NOT in the public eye, but it should be someone who hasn't been on radars as much. Ie: who's DELIBERATELY not saying alot, and yet you seem to feel that they're playing along (ie: you don't get the lurker vibe from them, but you don't really remember their message?) basically.
My suggestions: ccberos, Koldanar, and Cookies. I'd go with one of these guys more so. With a hairy eyeball towards: Hal, Shadowfacts, and NAF.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 18, 2008 5:45:19 GMT -8
Now, would you believe you have 5 hours left?
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Post by witch1 on Jul 18, 2008 6:14:19 GMT -8
Thanks W3, I have seen the post. Frankly, I hope I don't have to use it.
To protect or to investigate?
Benefits of investigation : We gain more information. Information is goooood for Town; provided we share the stuff at some point, which is a bit difficult if we're all dead. We always get some return on our investment. More useful in the early and middle game than the late game.
Benefits of protection : We retain the powers we have. We make it harder for the scum factions to win. More useful in the late game than the early game.
At this stage in the game, with over 20 players remaining, investigation is probably a better use of our power than protection, even of one of us. As the game goes on, if the two of us remain functional the protection ability becomes more useful, but even then its important that we don't both claim. If we're both exposed, once the news of a Witch death emerges in two Dawns time we can't cope with covering both of us.
Another point in favour of investigation is that I currently favour the hypothesis that the Cabal's secret power is to know who we investigate each Night. If that's right, then we'll give away the fact that we are down a person by not investigating. If W2 is right and the Cabal have W3 spotted, W3 would be dead by now if the Cabal had a bonus Nightkill.
I want to investigate Tonight.
W3, since you are more at risk,if you change your mind and want to be protected, post saying so formally. If you do, my vote will change to protecting you automatically.
Who to investigate then? There are lots of people I have no real feel for, but I'm not the most perceptive of people when it comes to reading posts. I just don't know right now.
If we want a low-volume poster, I'm content with investigating Hal. He's not in the bottom three (those would be cckerberos, Diggit and Pollux Oil.) Koldanar might be a choice for a midrange poster, as might Drain Bead. DarkCookies has 50% more posts than I do, but has done so without making too many waves.
Decisions, decisions.
Back soon.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 18, 2008 6:41:18 GMT -8
I truly think a better use of our power is to investigate tonight, especially if the Cabal's secret power is to know who we investigated. Plus it gives you more information. I really think I'm dead tonight, but I still think we should investigate. Nanook is going to do himself in and will be the lynch for Day 5. Even if I die, you can stay hidden for quite a while yet before having to speak up. My gut says to find out about Hal.
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Post by witch1 on Jul 18, 2008 7:02:33 GMT -8
I'm happy to go with that. I'd prefer to investigate a low-count poster because the others have given us more to work off in the late game.
Investigate Hal Briston.
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Post by Pleonast on Jul 18, 2008 9:17:25 GMT -8
So, is the consensus, Investigate Hal? I'll assume so, unless there's contrary talk.
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Post by witch2 on Jul 18, 2008 9:19:13 GMT -8
I'm fine with Investigating Hal. As I think the cabal's power is to know WHO we investigate.... So it's best to keep up false pretenses, else if we DONT investigate, they'll EASILY be able to point to me (the only corpse really) and say I was a fellow witch. And that'd cause a TON of problems. Much easier to try to survive today, and then let Nanook Hang. So Don't call him out or anything really toDay, Hockey- he's going to hang once Dio's results show up at Dusk. So we can avoid him and try to find the real scum. Unless he does something totally out there.
One amusing side thought- if Hockey you have to Role Claim, you shouldn't give a clue to the # of witches, except that I am a dead one. But if you wanted to lie (see this is where Storyteller would get irked), if I were in your shoes, I'd try to bait an attack by saying I was the last witch, knowing that then obv. tonight I could be targetted but that there is a 2nd witch out there to protect me.
It's not something I recommend you do, but it's a possible thought out there. Though once we do that, we'd always have to protect you then. And then it would be tricky for Mhaye should you ever pass away or should a seer point out the lie. But it could be a way to bait the scum into attacking you.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 18, 2008 10:16:17 GMT -8
I'll keep that in mind for sure, but I don't think ANYBODY is going to have to role claim till Day 6 at the earliest. Heh, helluvagame we got here. I am salivating at the thought of Nookie's lie being revealed.
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