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Post by witch3 on Jul 16, 2008 11:10:20 GMT -8
Oh my, lots to discuss tonight.
Protect or Investigate? My initial thought is to investigate. If another of us dies tonight the remaining one can come out tomorrow with at the very least an investigation. There isn't anyone other than ourselves that I would feel comfortable investigating, even though I am still 90% believing CIAS.
I was very close to counterclaiming Nanook today until Boozy Dio confessed. No sense in coming out at that point.
Although if we protect instead of investigate, then Nanook will have to go out on a limb with a guess.
Before Dawn on Friday the 25th one of us will have to tell the Witchiness of our departed.
More thoughts in a bit.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 16, 2008 11:25:46 GMT -8
01. ShadowFacts 02. Koldanar 04. cckerberos 06. Hal Briston 09. Zsofia - pinging as scum 10. Oredigger77 - pinging as scum 11. Drain Bead 12. CatInASuit - claimed Detective 14. peekercpa - pinging, but I don't know what as. 16. DiggitCamara 17. Nanook of the North Shore - scum! claimed Witch 18. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 19. dotchan 22. NAF1138 23. fluiddruid 27. One and Only Wanderers 28. Hawkeyeop 30. Pollux Oil 31. Omi no Kami - pinging as scum Still a lot of people we don't know anything about.
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Post by witch1 on Jul 16, 2008 11:34:31 GMT -8
Oh my, lots to discuss tonight. Protect or Investigate? My initial thought is to investigate. If another of us dies tonight the remaining one can come out tomorrow with at the very least an investigation. There isn't anyone other than ourselves that I would feel comfortable investigating, even though I am still 90% believing CIAS. Investigate. I take it you mean there's no-one you'd really feel happy protecting? I'm glad you did not. Remember; he will get outed at the end of Night 4, if we can hold out that long. The closer we can leave it to Dawn, the better. Best would be one minute past the Dawn, but before Pleo can get his Dawn post up. We can discuss who does it Tomorrow night.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 16, 2008 11:43:35 GMT -8
Yes I meant there isn't anyone other than ourselves I'd want to protect. :headsmack:
Anyone in particular you'd like to know about?
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Post by witch1 on Jul 16, 2008 11:51:08 GMT -8
Everyone still alive, of course.
Someone under the radar. NAF, maybe?
I might spend some time going through the two dossiers. Have you any comments on Oredigger and Zsofia? Anyone you want to dig through?
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Post by witch1 on Jul 16, 2008 11:59:48 GMT -8
Be very careful if you write anything analysing Dio's claim. I don't know how many posts I've written and discarded when I realised that I was assuming his Vampire claim was true. Half a dozen, at least.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 16, 2008 12:03:06 GMT -8
CIAS just revealed Diggit as Roosh's killer. I'm curious about Hal Briston. He's been pretty low flying. NAF I think is a likely night target. I'd love to be able to get some town confirmations for when we run through the lynches. Tomorrow Diggit, Next Day Nanook. It'd be nice to have a few confirmed to thin the pool a bit.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 16, 2008 12:03:51 GMT -8
I'm not even going to mention Boozy Dio again tonight.
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Post by witch1 on Jul 16, 2008 12:16:08 GMT -8
Boozy : as far as the main game goes, best plan. We can (and should) bounce ideas off each other in here though.
I checked the rules; it appears we can't rule out Necromancer just yet.
Hal's also an under-the-radar player right now, and (as we know) capable of playing his cards very close to his chest. Might be a good candidate for investigation. NAF? Well that depends on his faction.
I saw Cat's post. That's interesting. Reckon DC is going to claim Vig?
Speaking of Vigs, I was pondeering Night 1's kill list. If an active Vig killed on Night 1, and we now know that NBC's killer was a Werewolf, they're going to have to kill themselves Tonight.
A gutsy move would be for the Vig to claim and ask for us to protect them Tonight. Might be worth thinking about how we react in that eventuality.
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Post by witch3 on Jul 16, 2008 12:51:45 GMT -8
Interesting. If someone other than Diggit comes forward and asks for protection, I think we should consider it. I think Boozy was telling the straight up truth about being a Vampire, but you are right, he could still be the Necro. And I meant that I wasn't going to mention him again in the Game Thread. Right now, I think Hal is my top choice, but really anyone on the list that we don't know anything about is good.
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Post by witch1 on Jul 16, 2008 13:05:50 GMT -8
Let's tentatively agree on Hal then, subject to change as the Night evolves and input from our dead friend?
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:01:01 GMT -8
Hockey, I have a feeling you're dying tonight.
Just my gut (The same gut that told me I was gonna die yesterDay)
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:03:37 GMT -8
Here's my big 1,2 thoughts:
1. Hockey = dead = No more powers for you Mhaye. -So, do we protect Hockey or do we go powerless, and basically use ONE final Investigation?
One Caveat: 2. One Final Protect: What we COULD do is protect CiaS, as he's basically now a dead man if he's telling the truth (and if Diggit isn't the vig). This would be the ONLY other person besides Hockey who i'd even CONSIDER protecting- SCREW the VIG, let him die. He's not worth it.
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:12:56 GMT -8
Also- I am seriously curious about Nanook. I think he's got an ability to perhaps target a person/a Witch, and if he does, he can see who they targeted at least. If this was a secret power- then he easily may be leeching Hockeymonkey.
-->All he'd have to do is Claim Witch, then look for the ones who are most suspicious (right now, it's YOU Hockey, I know i have perfect info on you, but still its REALLY REALLY obvious that you don't buy Nanook's claim at ALL (and that you're the most vocal of the Anti-Nanook's; as you were quite willing to "accept" the ideas of Dio's "Nanook's a liar" sorta thing. And others may not see it, HOWEVER, Nanook ALSO has perfect info in that he KNOWS he's a liar. And so you're the #1 person on his radar for that. Which may be why he's been getting these reads (Storyteller- okay that coulda been a lucky guess. But Dio? No f**king Way. That was just crazy how he picked our target again. Dio was NOT on the radar for anyone really). -That's why I'm curiously thinking: -If nanook's ability is more than just a 1 or 2 time use thing, then he might want Hockey alive. -But if he's in danger of getting lynched soon- his goal should be to take out Hockey ASAP, as that's one witch gone for sure. Which is MAYBE what I think happened last night.
There was only 1 kill last night. There should have been 2-3. Maybe Dio told the truth, maybe he lied on getting his kill in. The only thing is, if Cabal COULD kill, who would they kill? Hockey... if Nanook is Cabal. That's my fear. That I was "randomly" targeted, but someone else TRIED hockey and failed.
That's why I think we should consider it- what can we do ToNIGHT that would maximize our use as witches, because I don't think Hockey's surviving toNight. Do we Protect her, or do we go for basically a final Investigation? Or do we try to spend it on a Protect on the Detective, and hope that he gets one more person tommorrow? (Though he could have sold diggit down the river and he could be a liar, but I'm more inclined to trust him if no one counterclaims him esp. after he fingers Diggit)- as a counterclaim could save a Vig or an innocent man....
That's our Situation.
(Btw: Mhaye- BRILLIANT job with your "wrong" analysis of thinking that Dio could be Town. That was GREAT, and it's totally something that Person looking for witches would NOT be that suspicious of). -Because that's what I think we're up against- a possible Spy who knows who we're targeting, either by luck (he's picking up on one of us each night as a target of his ability), or its his innate ability (ie: he always gets to see who the witches pick, but NOT the result).
So where do we go with THAT?
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:14:19 GMT -8
One final thing- Peds turned up Wolf- we need to go over his Posts that Day, and see who delayed voting for him, and who voted quick for him. There's probably another Wolf out there who probably tried to save him by finding another target, and there's prolly one that threw him under the bus ASAP. We should try to find those two both if possible....
That would be the "townie" thing to do, Mhaye, if you're in need of discussion topics on the next "day"
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:16:18 GMT -8
Finally- Hockey, I think you should leave a Complex Hidden Message somewhere toNight before this Night Ends.
Something that makes it clear you are a Witch, and something that Mhaye could point out to confirm himself when the time comes.
I'm thinking something like perhaps the end of every word spells out "w-i-t-c-h" or SOMEthing like that.
Not the obvious ones though (where you just capitalize the letters saying "i'm a witch" or you spell it out using the first letters. Those are too over done, and we need something newer that no one's done.....
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:16:28 GMT -8
thoughts on that?
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Post by witch2 on Jul 16, 2008 21:29:32 GMT -8
mhaye, you might wanna also dissolve the heat from you on the thread currently (if you read this first instead of the thread). As storyteller's giving you a hairy eyeball- and you WANT WANT WANT to avoid that at ALL costs. You're our best bet of staying alive this night of the 2 of youse.
Though I think they're thinking you might be the Vig, as that's what I got when I read your comments, because why else would you talk about it... esp. at Night....
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Post by witch1 on Jul 17, 2008 1:08:40 GMT -8
Welcome back, dead Witch. I appreciate your reasoning behind the suggestion that we protect. There's another as well; we still have the possibility you were enchanted by a Witchdoctor. If you were, and if W3 and I can survive the Night, then we'll be back to full strength Tomorrow. It might be worth protecting HM Tonight for that. If W3 is offed Tonight, I'm not claiming Day 4 or Night 4 (unless I have to) - again to allow for the possibility of the Witchdoctor picking the right player to enchant.
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Post by witch1 on Jul 17, 2008 1:17:01 GMT -8
I think I'll follow up on your pedescribe suggestion. Time to start another dossier here.
It's just occurred to me. Suppose the Cabal secret power is to learn who the Witches investigated, but not necessarily the result? If that is the case, not investigating is a bit of a giveaway that we're down to two players.
Since the Cabal have only one secret power, they wouldn't have a nightkill up their sleeve; that would take a load off my mind.
(If that's right we ould really play with the Cabal's heads by invettigating W3 or myself. Of course if they claim the investigatee is some variety of scum, we'd get lynched. But it would be funny to try.)
To pry or not to pry? That is the question.
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